So just to give you a little bit of a background in terms of where I'm coming from, so I, I did the first study looking at the ketogenic diet, and Natalie crossed with fifth CrossFit athletes back in 2016. And that's when keto actually started to get really popular. And that's what actually...

Because I work with a lot of clients one on one, and take a very practical approach to kind of like everything. So like, just looking at overall lifestyle that so the periodization part of it is really just like, Okay, if someone comes to me and they're like, I want to lose weight, it's like,...

I went through my own transformation, my own body composition transformation a few years ago as I came out of CrossFit, and as I went more into, like, hey, I want to change things up, like I was transitioning out of that strict lower carb approach, bringing carbs back in working with my own...

So I mentioned that I work with a lot of clients who, who are coming from a period where they did find a lot of benefits from keto in the beginning. And now they came to a point where it's like, it's not working for them anymore, so they need to try something else. And that I've also worked...

We do want to still be efficient in the exercise selection that we're picking for building muscle. Because in that way, and I guess you can define efficient in different ways, just the way that I think about is like, you want to be picking movements that you can, you know, progress in, right...

I think CrossFit is great, as a kind of community, you know, you have that community, you have that competition. And if people enjoy CrossFit and they, they want to continue doing that, I think that it's definitely, you know, beneficial, I think there can be a component where there is a little...

A lot of the women that I personally work with are already coming from that keto approach, right, they've already gone hardcore keto. And so they're actually trying to come back to the metabolic flexibility side on the other side of it. Whereas most, most people, I guess, not most people, but a...

I kind of looked at it in both in a few different ways in terms of like the physiological signs, and then also the psychological signs. For me, it was more so like the psychological side of things. And this is what I saw with a lot of my clients to just really being afraid to eat carbs was the...